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Nursing student expelled for Facebook photo

Published on December 31, 2010 in Medical

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(Via Nursing student expelled for Facebook photo – KansasCity.com)

I interrupt my penning of a “2010 in review” post to state that this is BULLSHIT. I like to get right to the point.

She’s got a placenta in there, which is weird and not in the best of taste, but find me the patient it came from. Can’t do it? Not a HIPAA violation. Professionalism issue? Let’s reframe. To me this says the student is excited about her lab and future in nursing.

JCCC says it’s “a lesson hard learned.” Indeed, but not the one the school probably thinks it’s sending: the lesson is that nursing is filled with inexplicable decisions and finding out after the fact you did something Bad. This student can carry that lesson with her, but is it really one our nursing schools should be teaching? Can they not teach something more like “here’s an opportunity for education regarding healthcare and social media”?

Did this program educate its students about the risks and benefits of social media (the student asked her teacher if she could post the photos, and the teacher said YES)? Did the student sign any agreement that she would not photograph laboratory specimens (if she did, all bets are off)?

I so abhor this social-media witch-hunting in healthcare. JCCC is pole-vaulting over a mouse turd here. I hope this nurse-to-be is reinstated into her program, as was Nina Yoder under weirdly similar circumstances.

End of rant, although I reserve the right to resume at any time.

 
14 Comments  comments 
  • Deb, RN

    Fascinating subject here, as there are so many facets and perspectives, many of which this insightful article addresses.

    Violation of privacy was not the issue here. The student has a Chesire grin while displaying a human body part, very much akin to an elated hunter being photographed after bagging an 18 point buck, or… as many in our country remember… like human body part war trophies on display. Even though we, as proud healthcare folks, understand what that student was actually feeling, the general public would not. It looks bad… very bad.

    The school is understandably worried about their reputation, which very directly relates to future income. Big bucks. The more the school grows, the better for students.

    I feel the school’s seemingly knee-jerk reaction to the situation could have definitely been better thought out, especially since there is potential of the obvious self-fulfilling prophecy: Their actions to avoid a bad rep shall possibly be the very reason they get one. And, I feel very, very bad for that poor student nurse. What a sad mess!

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  • http://twitter.com/nursingpins Vernon

    Hi Deb, grins are harder to read than a fluid level on a Pleur-Evac. Instead of a “Chesire grin while displaying a human body part, very much akin to an elated hunter being photographed after bagging an 18 point buck, or… as many in our country remember… like human body part war trophies on display.” I see a grin that says “I’m excited to be in nursing school and part of our education is to examine this – a real placenta.”

    There is no disrespect or unusual display noted and the student is properly gloved and lifting the specimen so it can be seen just as it is done on countless medical education programs. The student had told her instructor her intention was to “share the experience on Facebook.” This same photograph could have been shown on the Opra or Dr Oz program highlighting the education of nursing students without a word being said.

    The school could have easily used the photograph in their own social media to promote the learning experiences being offered by them. The photograph could have been the spark needed to get students interested in anatomy to think about nursing.

    As you said. “Violation of privacy was not the issue here” as there are no identifiable markers – a placenta is a placenta and could now be identified to a specific patient only by extensive lab tests and without someone to match it to…..almost imposable. This was a lab specimen! Not to mention that unless the mother had a use for it, it would have been tossed out in a HazMat bag. If the school had not responded in a knee-jerk fashion, her post would have been a non-issue and posts all over the web would not be calling it a “HIPAA violation”

    The school should have had a social media policy in place but sice there wasn’t, when the student asked about photographs, the instructor should have discussed the students intentions to make sure the post was in good taste (which I think it was) There is room to share exciting learning experiences that are in good taste and that do not violate privacy.

    In my opinion, if the students suspension is not reversed it will limit many valuable learning opportunities that not only Facebook offers but social media in general – but there has to be social media policies in place for guidance and work from there. Like you said “What a sad mess!” :)

    Interesting comments on the nsnbc article,
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40874448/ns/health/?ocid=twitter

    Later, Vernon.

  • http://www.poweruphealthcoaching.com Joyce

    I am in total agreement with Vernon on this one. I read the original article, and I think the teacher should have stood up for the student to the administration at the school. I don’t know what all the teacher did, but I think the student was a scapegoat here. There were no Hippa violations that I see.

  • Sue. RN

    I think dismissl a little harsh. Severe reprimand would have sufficed. Perhaps more education on approriateness of behaviour and responsibility for actions. She does wear rarher a ghoulish grin while she is poking at the placenta.

  • Deb, RN

    I’m just praying that the school administration will see the light and this poor woman shall be back in classes this month after winter break. Am also hoping this incident does not dampen her obvious enthusiasm for her chosen profession.

    Perhaps there is more to this story than the rest of us know, as is the case in so many issues. Regardless, this shall be a tough learning experience for the educators.

  • http://www.sarahbethrn.com SarahBethRN

    I really enjoyed this post. I took a couple days to research and formulate my own opinion.

    There are many issues here, HIPAA, professionalism, social media policies or lack thereof.

    But I believe generational misunderstandings are the deeper issue here.

    Check out my full blog post if you are interested.

    http://sarahbethrn.com/post/2570306000/nursing-student-expelled-for-facebook-photo-the

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  • Oldnurse2

    While I understand the schooI’s position, and do feel it was a bit unprofessonal, I also feel the incident could have been handled much better by the school. Reprimand? Yes.

    At this stage of the students’ education, they should have known not to do something like this. Yes, they were excited. But I also feel it might have been just a tad on the bragging side too. “Hey, look what we get to do!” kind of thing.

    Facebook is a social media, not a professional educational site. Nurses are supposed to be held to a higher standard. they shouldn’t have done it without getting permission from the director herself. And, as I understand, the instructor didn’t really give them permission either.

    Expullision? No. I agree that it was an inappropriate knee-jerk reaction. The school could have repremanded them by fining them or giving extra work.

    Everyone makes mistakes, and absolutely should be held accountable, but to just wipe out someone’s career like that, just as they are on the verge of it, is not appropropriate either.

  • Valeria Azuma

    I have been a nurse for 35 years, and have had the privilege to mentor student nurses.
    My comments regarding the behavior of those noted in the article, “Nursing Students Expelled For Posting Photo of a Placenta on Facebook.”
    Personally, I stay away from Facebook, I am uncomfortable having my personal information ‘out there’ for anyone to access. I have heard too many stories where people get “burned” due to something they have posted or is posted by someone else on their page.
    I acknowledge that we are rarely made aware of all the facts in any given situation reported by the media.
    The Nursing Instructor’s alleged response was ambiguous. When told to remove the photo from Facebook, allegedly, the student did.
    Responding to the information available, the Nursing Instructor should be held accountable for her error in accurately educating her students regarding professional behavior.
    Although the students involved showed poor judgment, expulsion is too severe a consequence. They should be placed on probation, allowed to continue their studies, and have their individual performance monitored.
    Students are going to make mistakes, it is the responsibility of the instructor and the institution to educate and correct, not to discourage and destroy.

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